Live reporting by
Carole Hawke
Following a description and discussion on the harms of fugitive dust, residents pressed on the particulars of enforcement for the proposed fugitive dust ordinance, and questioned ways to measure and document particulate in their communities..
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Carole Hawke
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Hello, Detroit Docs! I will be live-tweeting for Detroit City Council Fugitive Dust Ordinance Information Meeting for DETdocumenters @DetDocumenters media partners: @BridgeDet313 @chalkbeatDET @freep @metrotimes @michigan_public @media_outlier @PlanetDetroit @wdet @wxyzdetroit.
04:48 PM May 8, 2024 CDT
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Councilwoman Gabriela Santiago-Romera will be hosting the meeting about the ordinance she has proposed. Look at how she sent the notice out in English, Spanish, and Arabic and will have translations for multiple languages.
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Meeting starts at 6:00. Zoom link is available on the City Council website at .
detroitmi.gov/government/cit…
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Notes, twitter threads, and transcripts from previous meetings can be found at
detroit.documenters.org/reporting/?age…
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Dearborn has just taken up the issue, citing high asthma rates in the city.
wdet.org/2024/05/08/why…
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And here is a little background on Detroit's proposed ordinance: .
planetdetroit.org/2024/04/detroi…
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Meeting is starting. Gabriela Santiago-Romero states goals are to explain what the ordinance is and why it is important.
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The meeting will be wrapping up at 7 sharp but there will be opportunities to engage at other times.
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The Public Health and Safety Committee will be taking this up on Monday.
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The meeting will be recorded and shared afterward and shared on facebook.
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The zoom link is being linked to facebook which will allow for Spanish or Arabic translation. Councilwoman is explaining how to access them through the global icon at the bottom. She is sharing ways to interact with the meeting, as this is a public forum.
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There will be a Q&A portion for 20 minutes at the end. Commenters are asked to share their name and pronouns for the sake of inclusivity.
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Quick interruption that there are problems with translation but they are working on it.
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Sources of fugitive dust are often contaminated. Detroit has a lot of commingling of industry and residential areas. For example, D6 (Dearborn & Fort Street) in Detroit has a few blocks of residential surrounded by industry.
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New Detroit Development Tracker can be used to see new construction activity. For example, Gordie Howe Bridge site has lots of piles of cement and others. This is one of the largest sources of fugitive dust in the state.
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Not a lot of research on this. Batterman shared a project by some of his students who inventoried sources of fugitive dust in different districts in Detroit.
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In addition to industry and trucking, some parks have waste piles which are contaminated and the soil gets onto the road and into the airs.
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Summary: Many sources of fugitive dust (FD) in Detroit. There is no comprehensive FD inventory and monitoring. This is a nuisance and a health risk. This is a manageable problem. It is controllable with an enforced plan.
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Next presenter will speak on the vulnerable health conditions which many Detroiters are in which are exacerbated by fugitive dust.
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Around 350 patients have chronic COPD and asthma and suffer from the effects of dust from the Gordie Howe Bridge. Dust coming from installation of the bridge, of the bike path which will be along Fort Street, on having to move utilities. There is a constant ebb and flow of dust.
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CHASS gets good communication from Gordie Howe Bridge people with updates. But the dust is a real challenge. Have had to update filters for HVAC because of the overwhelming amount of dust.
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Dr. Valbuena shared 26 second video of huge plumes of dust being swept up and released into the air right next to CHASS's center.
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(Quick interruption to share that Spanish interpretation now available and instructions how to access it.)
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Rory Bolger is giving an overview of interaction with Planning Commission. There was a 2017 ordinance which dealt with coal and coke facilities. Current proposed ordinance regulates FD from sources other than coke and coal.
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(Interruption of belching and whistling and strange noises on audio from someone crashing the meeting--??)
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A fugitive dust plan is one in which the owner or operator is responsible for determining how an opacity or haziness of over 5% on the property and 0% beyond the property is not present.
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Councilwoman interrupting to say that the meeting may have been hacked. Have cleared out the list and hope to have gotten the hacker out of the attendees, but if another incident occurs, they may need to end and reschedule meeting.
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Monday 5/13 at 10:30 am is the hearing. Result of 11 years of preparation and ready to move forward and hopefully put this to the city council for a vote.
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Crystal Rogers of BSEED explaining how businesses will be addressed. They will be asked for a plan and if the plan is not in compliance, it will be sent back. If the plan doesn't work, BSEED will work with businesses to be in compliance.
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If businesses are not able or willing to get in compliance, blight tickets will be issued up to business being shut down.
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The measure will be 'opacity' which means how much a person can see through the dust. There can be dust on site while working (5%) opacity, but it cannot come off the site. Number of ways to combat FD, including wetting, truck washes, tire washes. Methods can be layered.
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Moving to comments: Will this be for all businesses or just new businesses?
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Bolger explains that this is part of city maintenance code and not zoning. Zoning can be used only for new businesses, but this would be for all businesses.
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Question: What about billionaire developers who don't care about fines?
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Rogers explains that the goal is compliance, but that the city does have the authority to shut down businesses which refuse to be in compliance.
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Rogers answers that there is a new air monitor system which will be in each of the 7 districts to measure general air quality. In addition, purchasing mobile monitoring units which can be moved around the city to sites of concern.
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Clarifies that it is opacity which triggers the ordinance. Also that businesses will not be required to do perimeter monitoring at this time, but the city does have the authority to use perimeter monitoring if needed.
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Councilwoman stresses that it is important for all citizens to be eyes and ears and get involved in monitoring.
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Bolger now responding to question about how industry will know about ordinance. There are escalating sanctions, with fee structure for failure to comply with ordinance, submit an adequate plan, etc. These will be presented at Monday's meeting and shared with industry.
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Councilwoman asking where there will be requirements for the businesses in selecting processes for mitigation.
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Rogers responding that industry knows its own business, so they will be able to select which methods of dust control to use. However, they can be given recommendations. And if their methods do not work, they can use a different method or face sanctions.
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Rogers also wants to point out that particulate matter is not the same as opacity. We need to be sure to keep these separate.
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Batterman interjecting that perimeter monitoring is used by some larger sites, and it is required that sites are lower than PM 10. The problem is that particulate matter is hyperlocal, so the sensors must be in the right place or they won't pick up.
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There will some best practices available for air monitoring which will be shared on Councilwoman's site.
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Question about how to deal with the dust being transient. It comes and goes, so how can residents monitor?
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Rogers said although dust goes away, it comes back, and there are ways to do monitoring. For monitoring, cameras with timestamps, looking at dust tracks coming in and out site.
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Councilwoman encouraged that this is a way for neighbors to join together to keep track of dust coming in and out.
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Representative for Detroit Salt Company speaking and saying that most large companies in Detroit already have a FD plan and that the ordinance will strengthen it. However, this could have an unintended consequence for landscapers and other small contractors.
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Also mentioned that the limits for ordinance are for wind of 20 mph, and he would recommend wind of 30 mph because at that point businesses would probably cease operations. Many days have wind in excess of 20 mph.
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Simone of SW Detroit Community Benefits Coalition. Will be there an initial site for sites required to abide by ordinance. This might give a better idea of level of protection needed at these facilities.
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Also, enforcement is always an issue. Other ordinances, such as truck traffic, have laws already but suffer because there isn't adequate staffing for enforcement.
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Rogers responded that there is no plan now for initial inspections, but there are inspectors which already go to each business each year, so adding fugitive dust info and education for these inspectors would be a good step.
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Councilwoman Santiago-Romero concluding statements to end meeting: Hears that fines and how this info will be shared with businesses are two big questions.
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Apologizes that there was trolling during the meeting, but thanks to staff who were able to take care of it so that meeting could continue.
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Hearing on the ordinance will be Monday 5/13 at Coleman A Young Building, 13th floor. Chance to ask questions and support getting the ordinance through for a vote by council. Community has worked for a long time for this.
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The information will be shared on social media and in her newsletter which will come out of on Friday.
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Can also email her with questions at councilmembergabriela@detroitmi.gov.
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This concludes my coverage of the Fugitive Dust Ordinance Informational Meeting. If you believe anything in these notes is inaccurate, email documenters@outliermedia.org with "Correction Request" subject line.
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For more information, including transcripts of the meeting, go to
detroit.documenters.org/reporting/